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	<title>Comments on: Hosted Ecommerce Solutions are Rarely a Good Option</title>
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		<title>By: Network Solutions: A rant &#124; The Invesp Blog: E-commerce and Landing page Optimization</title>
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		<dc:creator>Network Solutions: A rant &#124; The Invesp Blog: E-commerce and Landing page Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Invesp, we work with all sorts of ecommerce platforms, hosted, customized, free, or paid. Working with the vast variety of platforms out there has always [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Invesp, we work with all sorts of ecommerce platforms, hosted, customized, free, or paid. Working with the vast variety of platforms out there has always [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shopping cart developer</title>
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		<dc:creator>shopping cart developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a better title would be &quot;Many Hosted Shopping Carts Make It Near Impossible for Conversion Rate Experts to Do Their Job, Because They are Generally Inflexible.&quot;

For years, I have thought about building a shopping cart with one goal:  maximum conversion rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a better title would be &#8220;Many Hosted Shopping Carts Make It Near Impossible for Conversion Rate Experts to Do Their Job, Because They are Generally Inflexible.&#8221;</p>
<p>For years, I have thought about building a shopping cart with one goal:  maximum conversion rates.</p>
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		<title>By: shopping cart eveloper</title>
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		<dc:creator>shopping cart eveloper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We develop both complete custom carts, from the ground up, as well as have a couple of hosted apps, so I get to see both sides of the picture.  We make a lot more on the custom carts too, so I have an incentive to say how great those are, but I won&#039;t

Your article should have been titled:
If you have loads of cash to burn, years of conversion rate experience, lots of time to waste, then a hosted cart may not be for you.

It&#039;s funny, but can you tell me how many successful online stores use hosted carts vs. self built systems?  Well, I can give you some insight.  I know of several successful companies, and most of them have hosted, or prepackaged systems to some degree, even if they are enterprise level.  I even know a couple of stores that process 1 - 3 billion dollars in sales, and yes, their systems use many pre-packaged ecommerce pieces.  I can&#039;t tell you how many homemade ecommerce systems I have seen flop, because while they may be good in theory, their execution has so many opportunities to fail.  In fact, so much of what goes on behind the scenes, and few people realize the power of automation, and large volume order and product processing, reporting, marketing add-ons, etc...  One single marketing feature in a particular cart I use accounts for 10% of my sales, and it&#039;s free. I would have never wanted to, or thought of, building such a tool.

Just because you know how to build a cart, doesn&#039;t mean you know a thing about successful conversion rates.  In  fact a single split A/B test can easily cost 6 figures (e.g. $5 per paid click x 1.5% conversion rate x 500 conversions).

I build lead generation sites (i know they&#039;re not ecommerce) that convert at about 80% using pay-per-click, and the same principles apply across all of them.  Conversion rate optimization is not as varied in my opinion.

Sometimes, using an ecommerce framework is more ideal as they provide a basic starting point.

I will also say that there are very few hosted ecommerce providers that I think are really good.

Anyways, I could write for days on this, but I think your article is way to biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We develop both complete custom carts, from the ground up, as well as have a couple of hosted apps, so I get to see both sides of the picture.  We make a lot more on the custom carts too, so I have an incentive to say how great those are, but I won&#8217;t</p>
<p>Your article should have been titled:<br />
If you have loads of cash to burn, years of conversion rate experience, lots of time to waste, then a hosted cart may not be for you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, but can you tell me how many successful online stores use hosted carts vs. self built systems?  Well, I can give you some insight.  I know of several successful companies, and most of them have hosted, or prepackaged systems to some degree, even if they are enterprise level.  I even know a couple of stores that process 1 &#8211; 3 billion dollars in sales, and yes, their systems use many pre-packaged ecommerce pieces.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many homemade ecommerce systems I have seen flop, because while they may be good in theory, their execution has so many opportunities to fail.  In fact, so much of what goes on behind the scenes, and few people realize the power of automation, and large volume order and product processing, reporting, marketing add-ons, etc&#8230;  One single marketing feature in a particular cart I use accounts for 10% of my sales, and it&#8217;s free. I would have never wanted to, or thought of, building such a tool.</p>
<p>Just because you know how to build a cart, doesn&#8217;t mean you know a thing about successful conversion rates.  In  fact a single split A/B test can easily cost 6 figures (e.g. $5 per paid click x 1.5% conversion rate x 500 conversions).</p>
<p>I build lead generation sites (i know they&#8217;re not ecommerce) that convert at about 80% using pay-per-click, and the same principles apply across all of them.  Conversion rate optimization is not as varied in my opinion.</p>
<p>Sometimes, using an ecommerce framework is more ideal as they provide a basic starting point.</p>
<p>I will also say that there are very few hosted ecommerce providers that I think are really good.</p>
<p>Anyways, I could write for days on this, but I think your article is way to biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason Lancaster Each platform poses a number of obstacles, we just recommend that you do your research well before selecting a solution. Also, be weary that when you select a hosted solution and your company does need to grow, you may run into challenges. Not all hosted solutions are bad, but we like to share our experiences as a conversion optimization company with direct contact and interaction with some of these solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason Lancaster Each platform poses a number of obstacles, we just recommend that you do your research well before selecting a solution. Also, be weary that when you select a hosted solution and your company does need to grow, you may run into challenges. Not all hosted solutions are bad, but we like to share our experiences as a conversion optimization company with direct contact and interaction with some of these solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lancaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lancaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For small sellers, do you think a hosted platform is a good solution? Often small sellers can&#039;t invest in a customized platform (even an open-source system has a significant up-front cost), and they don&#039;t have enough volume to really optimize their conversion path anyways, so why not go with someone like CoreCommerce? Is there another option you would recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For small sellers, do you think a hosted platform is a good solution? Often small sellers can&#8217;t invest in a customized platform (even an open-source system has a significant up-front cost), and they don&#8217;t have enough volume to really optimize their conversion path anyways, so why not go with someone like CoreCommerce? Is there another option you would recommend?</p>
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